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Neutralizing the tannic acid?

I have been tanning an elk (moose) ear pouch with a solution of alder bark. It is now drying. It does however still smell bad, not like sour hide (I know that smell), but strongly acidic.My question...

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baking soda / Sodium bi carbonate will neutralize the acid.Have used it on chew toy raw hide heavily treated with ferric acetate (iron dissolved in vinegar), neutralize, then coated heavily with a...

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Thank you Quinn.As baking soda isn't primitive enough for me I may be thinking of either ammonia (old piss) or ash lye. I think the Saami rubs it with grass, but that isn't easily available right...

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I am quick to relie upon the chemistry I have study (makes liife a lot easier sometimes, or at least me being rather sure of what is going to happen).Before dealing with the acid / base reactions,...

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About the squirrels, I bark tanned a weasel hide some years ago. It worked right away, didn't smell acidic, but smelt like sligthly "weasely" leather.By the way, I didn't have any problems with the...

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I have another idea. Maybe lubricating it with fat will remove the acid on the surface?Anyone know how acid reacts to fat?Torjus Gaaren"Environmental Endtimer"http://torjusgaaren.blogspot.com/

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The acid/lipid thing is organic chem... am clueless.....Any results with the acrid oder on the leather?Wassail,Quinn-- I don't think we can resist the things which make no sense --

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I tried to oil it, used olive oil on one piece. The odor has weakened, but is far from gone. I'll try to wash the other piece in pure water to see if there is any effect from that treatment.Torjus...

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This wasn't much of a problem anyway. Soaking in a lake for a few days removed the smell almost entirely. If I had scraped off the bits off bark more carefully I expect that it would have become...

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Thanks for the update... had been wondering....barking lets you soak the leather.... good to know.Wassail,Quinn-- I don't think we can resist the things which make no sense --

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A little on this on my blog now.torjusgaaren.blogspot.com...pdate.htmlTorjus Gaaren"Environmental Endtimer"http://torjusgaaren.blogspot.com/

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Here is the resulting bark tanned elk ear pouch. Lined with roe deer buckskin. Sewn with an antler needle and reindeer sinew. The "tightening thread" is braided elm bark.Torjus Gaaren"Environmental...

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That's really cool!Wassail,Quinn-- I don't think we can resist the things which make no sense --

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torjusg, I see you've found out on your own, but just to reinforce it, bark tanning does not wash out. After removing from the bark solution the thing to do is rinse in running water for 24 hours. I...

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Tor, very nice . I've been wondering what I'm going to do with the deer head skin I have in my freezer at the moment. All the elements go together well including your braided elm tie pull. Beautiful...

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Thanks guys.How come you know Norwegian JoyDelight?Torjus Gaaren"Environmental Endtimer"Torjus' Primitive ProjectsPrimitive Survival Courses

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Tor, Takker De for sprre om min liten bit av Norsk. Min bestemor og bestefar kom her i 1909 fra Trondheim, Norge. Min bestemor aldri taledde Engelsk. Mamma og bestemor taledde Norsk. Jeg lyttet og lrt...

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